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took aim at the fiscal cliff negotiations. a lot has been made about the president and speaker boehner meeting one on one behind closed doors. last night snl revealed its real reason why the president decided to speak to boehner alone. >> in order to get the support of the speaker i agreed to zero tax increases. why would i do that? i mean, i won the election. i had the leverage. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. earlier this week i found my way into the congressional cafeteria and what do i see? john boehner sitting by himself. all alone. not a single member of his party willing to share his company. he didn't even have any milk to drink because, well, tell them why, john? >> they had taken my milk and thrown it in the garbage. >> they took it and threw it in the garbage. i was so heart broken to hear this i said, look, how about this, john? if you agree to a 1% rate on the top 2 americans, just 2 people, i will dissolve social security. dissolve it. so we took it to the republicans and congress and what do they do? >> invited me to a pizza party. >> and when t
at "30 rock" in new york city. well, we begin with the new urgency in the fiscal cliff negotiations with now just 21 days, three weeks to reach a deal. today president obama returns to campaign mode taking the fiscal cliff message to detroit. yesterday the president and speaker boehner met privately at the white house, their first face-to-face meeting since they agreed last week to clear everyone else out of the negotiating room. so what happened? well, neither side revealed anything about the meetings, only saying that the lines of communication remain open. but yesterday another influential republican, senator bob corker from the senate banking commission said his party should consider the president's idea of raising tax rates on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate is in the democrat's hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you go in and give the p
do they portend for the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> it strengthens the president's hand. it was a good number, not great, because of some of the revisions we saw to previous months but the president can tout a record of job creation, so that's encouraging. the unemployment rate went down to 7.7% for some of the wrong reasons. a lot of people left the labor force. that's not something you want to see. you want to see more people coming into the labor force, encouraged that they have a chance at getting a job. nonetheless, 146,000 jobs created. that's good for the president. gives him a chance to go out there and have some momentum going into the fiscal cliff talks. i was just at the speaker's press conference down the hall at the top of last hour and he said look, there's no progress being made and his call with the president was just more of the same and the staff talks behind the scenes yesterday were more of the same. he didn't give us a whole lot of optimism going into this weekend here, alex. >> here's my question. i have many questions, but when we get these numbers
.c." >> well, the stock market riding the ups and doups of the fiscal cliff negotiations. roger altman is former treasury official under president clinton. he says he's optimistic that a deal is coming. the question, of course, is when. joining me from new york is roger altman. always nice to have you on the program. let welcome back. >> hi, how are you? >> you think a chance of getting a deal will increase and harry reid says he's pessimistic that had t will get done before christmas. what do you think? >> the financial markets themselves are becoming more optimistic, and i think that's a strong signal. second, i think the atmospherics, and senator reid's statement is just part of that, are suggesting that there's some movement and some progress, and thirdly, i'm particularly impressed with what the business community has been doing. it's really engaged and rolled its sleeves up and got involved in this. you might have seen the statement about an hour ago that the business roundtable released, and the business community wants a solution. they want a balanced solution and increasing to
negotiations and failed in the senate. jenna: let me ask you that is it part of the fiscal cliff negotiations or are food stamps in their own column right now? >> reporter: he tried. it is considered an entitlement program so it has to be funded. he did try to get the specific measure passed in the senate and it failed. jenna: any response from the administration on this? >> reporter: we reached out to the white house on this and want to give them opportunity to explain or comment on the fact under president's first term food stamps are up 39%. amount of americans dependent on them. the white house directed us to the u.s. department of agriculture and oversees this program and other similar programs. here is what they told us. the increase in snap participation during the 2008 and 2010 pared of economic decline which include the recent recession was consistent during increase in previous periods of economic decline. senator sessions and others make a point. the math doesn't add up. as we're seeing unemployment rate tick down very slowly small increements at a time explosion of people who are
to call 1-866-7- lockup. >> legislators say they need to see how fiscal cliff negotiations develop before making any budget plans. between 50,000 to 90,000 jobs could be lost if across-the- board spending cuts and tax increases are not averted. mike miller says that it will help determine what major finance initiatives will need to be considered for the state's upcoming legislation. president barack obama says approach in the fiscal cliff will add to holiday stress for american families. >> the closer it gets to the brink, the more stressed they will be. businesses are making decisions right now about investment and hiring. they don't have confidence that we can get this thing done, they will start pulling back and we could have a lousy time in our haqqani for the next several months. >> the president made the remarks while visiting with the virginia family to talk about the budget crisis. >> for now, the stalled negotiations cannot seem to be affecting local holiday shopping and events in and around baltimore. >> harbour east is one of the air is a special -- with special events going on
in their heels with no move to avoid the fiscal cliff. fiscal cliff negotiations have been at a stand still since monday when republicans proposed raising revenue by closing tax loopholes not by raising rates own the wealthy as the president has demanded. >> we're not insisting on rates out of spite but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue. >> we can't keep borrowing mown and raising taxes and expect the problem to go away. >> with no solution in sight the white house budget is now ordering the pentagon and other an an jencies to finalize their plan to avoid massive spending cuts. >> secretary of state clinton says nato's decision missiles to turkey sends a clear message that tour ski is backed by its allies. the big concern remains an increasely desperate assad regime will turn to chemical weapons as rebel fighting rages on. the u.s. and its partners are looking to apply additional pressure on at a conference next week. the regime insists they would not use weapons against its people. >> a natural gas tanker arrived in japan today becoming the first vessel to successfully
of the fiscal cliff negotiations. blink and you just might miss exactly nothing. while talks between speaker boehner and president obama over the past three days have been shrouded in secrecy, we've learned there have been two offers put on the table. the white house sent boehner a proposal on monday calling for $1.4 trillion in tax revenue, $200 billion less than the original offer. might that seal the deal? >> the president's called for $1.4 trillion worth of revenue. that cannot pass the house or the senate. >> okay then. the speaker's office responded with a deal of its own. yesterday it included precisely the same amount of revenue from the original proposal, $800 billion, which indicates there may have been concessions else where. a democratic source close to the white house tells nbc news the proposal included a permanent extension of the bush tax cuts. that is highly unlikely to fly, given the hard line the president has taken on tax rates and what he told barbara walters in an interview airing this friday on "20/20." >> taxes are going to go up one way or another and the key is to m
in the fiscal cliff negotiations how we can actually get a deal done before the deadline. representative chris van hollen, lynn jenkins and javier becerra as well as sore orrin hatch with us. we'll hear from former treasury secretary altman and jeff greenfield. bill? >> stocks are trading off the highs of the day with less than an hour to go. final hour, really from the get-go. optimism about the cliff talks and senator harry reid made some comments this afternoon that put a damper on that real. we've lost about 30 points. in that time. up 74 on the dow at 13,244. the nasdaq is doing well today, up 32 points. more than a 1% gain, although it is off its highs of the day at 3019, and the s&p 500 index is 8 plus points at 1426. the word on the street is because of the fiscal cliff, some investors are actually selling the winners, the winning stocks, and they are holding on to the poor performers, the opposite what have they have been doing the last few years. maria? >> makes a lot of sense given the fact that tax les go higher on capital gains. you want to get out of some of those names. let's fi
much less expensively. >>> negotiators have become very quiet on the fiscal cliff. odd for them. not much known specifically about what's happening behind closed doors. we want to get to steve israel. a democrat from new york. chair of the democratic congressional campaign committee. nice to have you with us again. i'm always worried when there is not a lot of noise out of washington, d.c. everything quiet. to the point where speaker and the president releasing press releases almost identical. is this good? the talks are moving in a positive turn? >> yeah, look, nothing is certain, but in this case, i think whispering in the white house is better than finger pointing in the media. it suggests, like in any negotiation, the parties serious, trying to work out acceptable compromise. speaker boehner has received pressure from own members looking at polls. including a poll that 60% of the american people want a balanced deal that does ask the wealthiest to do more. they want fundamental debt reduction, spending cuts, which democrats are prepared to do. no news may be good news. >> th
$800 billion in tax revenue in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly
, on the administration side in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> bertha coombs has a "market flash." >> disney's cfo speaking at a ubs media conference saying that e es espn ad revenues slightly ahead of last year, very much a powerhouse when it comes to revenues for disney which this year is the third biggest gainer on the dow jones industrial average. >>> a question for you -- what do the pope, mark zuckerberg and angela merkel all have in common? they are among the voices that matter the most. we'll tell you why coming up in a few moments. >>> a check of the dow jones industrial average, we are off of our best levels of the day but considering the weight that apple is putting on the nasdaq, a lot of people thought that the dow would be negative. we're up 115 points on the trading session and we are above the 13,000 mark. "power lunch" returns in two. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it
back. this very public negotiation on the fiscal cliff still does not seem to be closing in on a deal. the white house out in campaign style events regularly, making multiple media appearances, kle including timothy geithner right here in 25 minutes. >> but would things be done faster if it was done privately? in his latest column, jeff goldfor a compares u.s. budget talks to merger proxy battles. jeff joins us to explain about that. plus, we have bob from jones day who specializes in wall street deal making. jeff, it is ammo on wall street to do things behind closed doors. you don't want word to get out on the negotiations. it gets too messy. >> right. i wouldn't advocate for a lot of people to do what wall street does. one thing you can say is they've helped facilitate thousands of mna deals this year. they've figured something out with these transactions. the deals that are most successful have the better chance of success are the ones that you negotiate behind closed doors, not the ones that turn into hostile battles and spill out into public, which is what we're seeing noup. >> i
on the fiscal cliff negotiations, but let's art in chicago with john, two very interesting situations continuing, drama over the fiscal cliff in d.c. and also this week we have the fed meeting. which is more important to the market? >> eventually it will be the fiscal cliff that is more important to the market, but make no doubt about it, the fed meeting with the announcement wednesday morning and wednesday afternoon is going to continue to support risk assets. you were talking about how the dollar is melting up for the fourth consecutive day. the federal reserve will make a very active effort to continue to support risk assets. whether they're equities or commodities. the metals market had a very positive day, recovering a bit with the damage done last week. risk assets are doing well, but over the fiscal cliff for sure in december. liz: the fed, the fed, the fed. they're not going to do anything, but they might announce some sort of easing that is what we constantly talk about and wonder because that has been the trade. with it had a decent rally, the market up double digits the past year and
's talking points memo many believe the president has the upper hand in the fiscal cliff negotiations. if we gopher 00 cliff republicans think they will get most of the blame. if they give in to tax hikes conservatives believe they will infuriate their base. senator rand paul even believes that since they have such little leverage in the talks of president obama. well, republicans should just get out of the way and let the democrats raise taxes as much as they want. and then let the president take responsibility for party of high taxes. now can i understand senator paul's thinking especially given the fact that the president has already announced ahead of his mano a mano meeting can john boehner that he won't concede an inch on tax cuts. this republican defeatism news broke of jim demint's departure from the senate yesterday. is he a tea party warrior and demint is a hero to part of the g.o.p.'s 2010 midterm route. now he is off to head off a think tank the heritage foundation. let's face it the g.o.p. needs new energy. it needs branding help. heck, we have a lot of issues resolve amongst ou
. investors waiting to see what comes out of the fiscal cliff negotiations and in europe, a choppy start to the trading day. investors are waiting for the results of greece's bond buyback program occurs. joe has some of the big corporate news and this one is actually a global corporate story. >> hsbc. we're talking about paying $1.9 billion in the money lawnering lapses. a brirchb lender admitting to a breakdown of controls, in a statement announcing a deferred payment. yesterday standard chartered agreed to pay $27 million agreeing that it violates sanctions against iran and two other international companies. >> if you're an international bank and you prael without getting into this kind of trouble? >> no. >> can you actually operate without money laundering? >> i'm just saying, if you're going to be in business in all these types of markets, isn't this going to happen? >> aren't there sxwier countries that would be probably -- that it would stead if you don't want any business tale. >> was there a fascination in this country about whether you want to indict the whole institution or wha
, it was 8.8%. how does this play into the fiscal cliff negotiations? >> well, i think the president can and will, i'm sure, make the case that the economy is now clearly headed in the right direction. that the lowering of the unemployment number is not an aberration nor was it a political trick that occurred during the campaign that some had charged. so the president can say, okay, we need to resolve this fiscal cliff issue. or else we're going to start heading in the wrong direction. don't interrupt the recovery that we're having. and if you do, congress, it will be your fault. >> and then as far as the job approval numbers for the president, and this is going to play into this leverage negotiation, as well. how is the president handling his job as president. this is an average of the major polls. 53% approve of the job he's doing. 43% disapproved. that's a three-year high. >> and our monitor poll out this week. 53% approval. and the widest gap we've had on whether people prefer him or republicans. he has a stronger hand in this debate, partially because his approval rate was up. but m
this morning. u.s. stock futures are trading higher. the foj kus is on washington as fiscal cliff negotiations continue. we will also get an update on the health of the labor market when the weekly jobless claims report comes out later this month. >>> by now you all know the siren logo. >> many of you will grab a cup of coffee this morning. starbucks ceo has sobering advice to offer on the looming fiscal cliff, that the consequences will be far worse than last year's debt ceiling fight when the u.s. credit rating was downgraded for the first time ever. his message to lawmakers, now is not the time to play politics. it's about doing right by the american people. >> i think if people would get in the room and leave their ego behind, and not be so skewed towards the party but be so sensitive to the lens of the american people, we will have an agreement. >> poppy harlow is joining us with more. we've been talking about how this will affect us. schultz says this goes way beyond our boarders. >> it's global. something that stuck with me talking to him about this, the people who need a deal most will
. >> let me start with what's going on in washington. we've got this negotiation for the fiscal cliff. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what is the impact to your business? >> well, there would be an impact on consumption, for sure. so when it comes to puma or mainstream brands in america in sports, there will be a for sure some consequences in terms of consumption. but i see that as an investment for the future. so it might be a little bit different from some of other ceos. we have to get over the fiscal cliff. let's not delay the thing. it needs efforts. let's make them short for a better future. i think we should be ready as a corporation, being ready for maybe a year of difficult market, difficult situation in the market because that is a ceiling on our growth in terms of economical growth as to be released. it's really me an investment for the future. >> you're seeing a similar situation in france where we're talking about the possibility of capital gains taxes and dividend taxes going much higher. what will that do to the investor class, to the entrepreneurialism that we're seein
obama hits the road to talk to republicans about the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> all part of the road to the fiscal cliff we've been seeing now. what's the latest, eamon? >> to really push public opinion in his direction on the fiscal cliff talks. the president today making the argument that he's the guy in this debate that wants to lower american taxes. >> if congress doesn't act soon, meaning in the next few weeks, starting on january 1st, everybody's going to see their income taxes go up. it's true. y'all don't like that, huh? >> and you can tell how confident president barack obama knows how positive his polls are on his side of this issue. but on the game where he's campaigning publicly and negotiating privately. as you said meeting with john boehner at the white house yesterday. and clearly the president is meeting with republicans and then checking back with democrats. we see this pattern now a couple of times last week he met with or spoke to boehner. and then met with nancy pelosi, the democratic leader on capitol hill. today we're told he had a phone call on air force one fr
of the fiscal cliff negotiation but a question of how much more money saved by things like making packages happen on saturdays but not necessarily all mail delivery. tough negotiation realtime. >> now another thing to the fiscal cliff deal? a deal i'm pretty sure is pretty bad whatever it is. not enough. >> but every little bit helps and here's the point. you know, the post office defaulted twice in the last couple of months, erin. august, defaulted $5.5 billion the first time. congress did nothing, fiddled. happened in september. overall last year, they lost $15.9 billion. something's got to be done. do they kick the can to the next year? >> thanks so much, john. >>> talking about default, they default and nobody cares. some day we'll care and going to hurt. >>> next, 22 days if the fiscal cliff and the president's taking the plan on the road but a guest says mr. obama, you are overplaying your hand. >>> and a radio prank blamed for a suicide. the two deejays behind the hoax speak out for the first time. with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose
in the fiscal cliff negotiations it would be counterproductive if congress cut invest. >>> in education and job training to "reduce the deficit" in a way that would impact future economic growth. we've got to fix the workforce investment, the job training system in the united states to prepare people for the types of jobs that ceo has. >> you've been there, you've had to forge deals between warring constituencies. fiscal cliff. what would the solution be if you were handling it? >> i like the idea of the president, john boehner, the key players, getting together with no staff in the room. the second thing, they've got to be guided by a couple of things. number one, what is best for the nation? not my party, not my philosophy, not necessarily my politics. number two -- >> you'd like it one on one. >> editd' i'd like it one on on discuss specifics in a one on one way. second, they may agree there should be short-term steps and long-term steps, i think we can get there. the nation is counting on them doing something significant. >> saints/giants this weekend? >> i've got to go for the saints. i'm
back. well, there were other developments aside from the fiscal cliff negotiations today. apple today, big loser once again. the stock continues in a free fall. bertha coombs on the latest on apple. >> that fall on apple really affecting the overall market. apple closing at the lows of the day. the concerns, essentially, are fundamental, that they may be losing market share when it comes to ipad, slower iphone sales, but also technical. they're really seeing the stock moving below some support levels here. then also, the financials. that was the other side of this. citi with that announcement they were cutting their costs. today one of the big gainers. that set off a rally in financials. bank of america closing about $10 for the first time in 17 months. >> all right, bertha. thanks so much. hopes running high for pandora media, meanwhile. >> the radio advertising market alone that we're just beginning to scratch the surface of is a $15 billion plus market. we're a leader in mobile, which is set to become another $15 billion plus market. >> we're going to hear more from the radio compa
meanwhile, we have fiscal cliff negotiations where the president wants stimulus mechanisms including an extension of unemployment insurance. they're like a doctor who diagnosed you with a severe ill sxns won't sign the precipitation to give you the medicine. they emphasize the joblessness problem, and they don't want to give you unemployment insurance and tell that to someone laid off sleeping in their car. >> with these jobs numbers, had hurricane sandy not struck how better would this report have been? >> a lot of this was construction job weakness. clearly, that will rebound. one of the unfortunate upsides of natural disaster is that you do, whether the states or federal governments do it or insurance companies, you have a lot of infrastructure spending as people rebuild from the wreckage. you had 20,000 less construction jobs last month. that's likely to be a 20,000-plus or more just to rebuild new jersey alone. you have that. by the way, we haven't talked about the defense cuts that go into effect on january 1, which is truly massive. those have a negative effect on the sector e
. that is of high importance in solving the fiscal cliff negotiations and in a longer term way bringing the country to a sustainable fiscal course. what specific changes to medicare or medicaid would you be willing to imbraes today right new that would slow the growth in our medical spenting? >> i'm not going to debate the specifics on television. i think that what the president is doing, is clear that he has indicated that we have to raise the tax rate. the tax rates, bush tax cuts, was temporary in nature. >> that's not what i asked. i asked what specific would you be willing to do to address what is clearly the number one thing that is going to blow the hole in not only the economy but federal spending, federal budget over the next generation. >> what we have to do is negotiate. everything should be on the table. i think the president indicated that everything would be on the table. the president indicated he is ready to talk about entitlements, et cetera. the other side said we can cannot raise tax hikes at all. we have to make sure that everything is on the table. if everything is not on the t
making the case, get out from behind closed doors and negotiate the terms of the fiscal cliff deal in public. let's listen. >> i get nervous when two people disappear into a white house room and start making a grand alliance and they think, we're going to do this and get it out of the secret meetings and into the public venues to the american people and the congress themselves, we're responsible for making intelligent decisions. that should be done publicly. but at some point, after public debate and so forth, yes, private negotiations can help bridge the gap and bring us to a successful conclusion. >> mary, what do you think? will that be a kiss of death? >> i don't think there's time, wolf, the president has been dragging its feet. we have a few numbers of days left before we go off the fiscal cliff and taxes are raised for everybody. so speaker boehner knows a caucus, a serious, mature sober leader. he knows what his principles are. he's a principled conservative, a mainstream businessman and knows what the issues are. the house should and is largely trusting him. >> and what do
their inner publicists in the fiscal cliff negotiations. that pr aside, are we any closer to common ground? and it if all this sounds familiar, it is. we will talk deal making and deja vu with ben jaman wallace walls, and the ranking member of the house budget committee congressman chris van hollen. plus liz wet bar ren's return to washington and her role as a wall street enforcer and activist kerry kennedy joins us for a discussion about human rights and her father's legacy when "now" starts in a mere 180 seconds. want to try to crack it? yeah, that's the way to do it! now we need a little bit more... [ male announcer ] at humana, we understand the value of quality time and personal attention. which is why we are proud to partner with health care professionals who understand the difference that quality time with our members can make... that's a very nice cake! ohh! [ giggles ] [ male announcer ] humana thanks the physicians, nurses, hospitals, pharmacists and other health professionals who helped us achieve the highest average star rating among national medicare companies... and become th
that the president's strategy in these fiscal cliff negotiations is nothing but a power play, and in a previous column you actually used the words they want to humiliate the republicans. expand on that and explain that. >> well, you get the republicans the day after election day making good faith offers, boehner breaking with 20 years of tradition says we'll give you revenues, $800 million, and that's a real break for the republicans. that's a peace pipe. what does he get in return? the president sends the treasury secretary, geithner, to boehner and to mcconnell. he pockets the $800 billion. he double ths it and says i want 1.6 trillion. he demand not only no spending cuts of any importance but increased stimulus in spending which is preposterous when you're running trillion dollar deficit. and just to add insult, and here's the insult, he demands congress give up the power to control the deficit. that's obviously meanlt to humiliate the republicans. it's a non-starter. it's not acceptable. it's a way of saying to boehner you want to hand me your sword, you want to hand me your shirt? i want y
there is no progress to report. >> fiscal cliff negotiations. >> one-on-one right now. >> are now a party of two. >> the two most important players. >> the president and the speaker. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner. >> a two-man operation. >> there is no progress. >> we are seeing progress. >> there is a jobs report today. >> unemployment down to 7.7%. better than expected. thank you very much. >> we dropped a whole point in a year. >> there is no progress. >> members of congress are always upset. >> they are taking us to the cliff. >> the momentum is with the president. >> republicans are totally over the barrel. >> did you say over? >> they should give in to obama on the tax rate? >> nothing is over until we decide it is! >> we didn't elect them to raise rate. >> not me! >> we don't have a revenue problem. >> i'm not going to take this. >> when are you going to fight? >> let's do it! >> how is that winning? that isn't winning. >> i don't think republicans will win. >> south carolina senator jim demint -- >> jim demint says he is resigning. >> his surprise announcement to step
the voter approved referendum into law on wednesday. >>> breaking news. on the fiscal cliff negotiations, president obama, house speaker john boehner, met face to face at the white house today for the first time in more than three weeks. we do not have any details about today's conversations but reps on both sides say the lines of communication remain open. the two men last met on november 16th. also today, another republican senator announced his support for raising tax rates on wealthy americans. tennessee senator bob corker says if the gop agrees to the wealthy tax hike, republicans would be better positioned to negotiate for bigger spending cuts on social security and medicare. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year-end. a lot of people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about, the rate increase on the top 2%. and all of a sudden, the shift goes back to entitlements. and all of a sudden, once
. that's the big conversation i had with folks on the hill. this might, might be part of the fiscal cliff negotiation. it's a question of how much more money could be saved by making packages happen on saturday but not all mail delivery? it's a tough decision. >> and now you're adding something more to the fiscal cliff deal, a deal i'm pretty sure is going to be pretty bad. >> but every little bit helps. the post office defaulted twice in the last couple months, erin. august, defaulted $5.5 billion for the first time. congress did nothing. fiddled. now, same thing happened in september. overall last year, they lost $15.9 billion. something has got to be done. can they kick the can to next year or get a deal done before next year? >> sad, defaulting on billions of dollars and we all think nothing is going to happen. one day, america, something terrible is going to happen. out front next, 22 days away from the fiscal cliff, the president is taking his plan on the road. one of our guests says mr. obama is overplaying his hand. >>> and radio prank is blamed for a suicide. two deejays behind t
. now, let's put this all into context here. fiscal cliff negotiations, don't you think they would proceed a lot faster and smoother if both sides were really dealing with reality? but, you see, the republicans, they simply are not. house speaker john boehner and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell have spent years catering to the base that believes, let's say, president obama's a socialist, and the united nations wants to take your disabled child right out of your home. they have votes to back it up, folks. this pitiful display of most senate republicans on the disability treaty showed once again just how far they are, and how far they are removed from reality. one democratic senator told me yesterday his office was actually getting calls from constituents with disabled children wanting to know if the u.n. would remove their children from their homes. it is manufacturing fear in the lives of americans. sometimes it's just a bald-faced lie about the facts. here's the democratic and republican opening bids on the fiscal cliff. but the revenue side of the republican proposal just
of the fiscal cliff negotiations. the mortgage interest deduction. government spending on this will reach $100 million by 2014, making it the third largest tax break on the books. who does it help? 41 million people. the most recent irs data showed that 41 million people claimed this deduction on their 2010 tax returns. the tax policy center says it tends to benefit upper middle class families the most. these bars show income in the circles the average savings. for those with incomes of less than $40,000 a year, their savings is $91, look at the people who make $250,000 and more. their average savings is about $5500. this benefits people most on both coasts and cities like chicago, with higher property prices, and we watch the fiscal cliff negotiations closely for what could happen next to this tax goody next year. >> here's the question i'm hearing people ask, if we go off the cliff here, how big a hit will we take on taxs? stand by, because i'm about to give you the closest answer i possibly can. to help me with that is laurie montgomery, she is the fiscal policy reporter for the washington
boehner has been a good leader during the fiscal cliff negotiations. and then we were joined by bob corker and bob conrad. corker said we need to focus more on entitlements now, and he will not sign any package that doesn't deal with entitlements at this point. conrad said more, not less, should be included in some sort of a big deal. by big deal, he means over $4 trillion. we are now just 20 days away from the fiscal cliff deadline. we continue to bring both sides of the aisle to sit down together. congressman sander levin is a ranking member of the house ways and means committee. and a republican from new jersey, the vice chairman of the house budget committee and a member of the house financial services committee. gentlemen, thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> we just sat down with senators conrad and corker. they seem to agree on a lot of areas. one of those areas is they think we need to negotiate up from this point, not down from this point and cut some sort of a deal that is 4 trillion or greater when you add up the tax increases. congressman levin, would you agree with
for this country to lead. this is an opportunity for the president to lead. >> as fiscal cliff negotiations and debate continues, i think it's important to remember that washington doesn't have a revenue problem. it has a spending problem. under this administration under president obama we have seen record deficits and a record debt accumulate and yet he keeps demanding that we raise taxes -- >> those are some of the republican leadership in the house as you can see responding to the white house's response to their counteroffer of a couple days ago as a reminder the president is going to speak to the business roundtable at 10:50 this morning. we think he'll take some questions even as gop leadership is meeting with small businesses as negotiations or lack thereof over the fiscal cliff continue. >> did you see that the nbc white house team is reporting the belief that perhaps the republicans don't have the fight in them anymore to really dig in now on the concessions on the way which is good news if you don't want to go over the fiscal cliff but they are dispelling the real argument for late
the fiscal cliff negotiations. it is not painful until the very end of the year. how this benefits the company. adam: the note dropped 7.7%, the lowest rate since december 2008. that is just a headline. let's get to nicole petallides. the traders are reading a bit into this report. nicole: the first thing they noted when i came in here, a lot of them are talking about the fact that the prior month had been revised lower. the prior month which seemed like they were good news, in fact, were not as good as they seemed. they take these numbers with a grain of salt. the dow, nasdaq and s&p are mixed today. the dow is up about one third of 1%. what is interesting, this will be our third wedding week in a row. they have not been dramatic moves, but last week was pretty slots. jpmorgan and bank of america are some names on the dow that are holding on pretty nicely. the tech heavy nasdaq down one half of 1%. adam: a lot of people watching that jobs number. thank you very much. dennis: according to today's jobs report, the unemployment rate is down to 7.7%. the lowest level it has been to si
." the road map for the next hour, speaker boehner expected to comment on the fiscal cliff negotiations at any moment. we'll bring you those comments live. >> a lot of fiscal cliff debate may not be about economics. one former adviser to presidential candidate mitt romney gives us his take. >> twitter's answer to insta gram. helping us see the big picture as well. >> let's take a closer look at what we can expect from the fed decision. steve liesman is in washington with the preview. >> are you excited about this, melissa is this. >> of course. >> you should be. there is a substantial change about to take place to the fed's balance sheet today. i'm not hearing much debate in the market. markets overwhelmingly expect the feds to announce today it will replace operation twist with a new program to purchase assets outright. that is, instead of swapping short-term assets for long-term ones, which didn't grow the balance sheet, it will now purchase just those long-term assets. printing money essentially. this will mean explosive growth in the feds' balance sheet. hee are the numbers. first, the fed
on the fiscal cliff negotiations because it becomes even more binding one would assume in terms of good or bad for the market, for the economy. >> kernen had a good point. does strength mean the economy could handle a cliff or is it so good you wouldn't want to tamper -- >> if i wanted to create a recession, what would i do? i would raise everybody's rates. i would cut the unemployment benefit. just trying to think of a theory of how i could cause a recession. i would cut back government spending quickly. >> i would raise interest rates to 20%. >> bernanke ought to join the -- look, i think this is what's going to happen. i think it's 50-50 we get a deal. no vacation. no legislation, no vacation. i think that when people get their paycheck at the end of january, they are going to be shocked at how much lower it is. i know these guys in washington, their paycheck isn't affected. i think when you get your paycheck, you're going to say i hate that. it is going to be that big. it's going to be very -- the takeout is going to be big. amt at the end of the year, you'll write a check when you're supp
he had to say about the progress of the fiscal cliff negotiation. >> i think the atmospherics are getting so much better. we've kind of gotten out of the kabuki theater and we've gone to, you know, dancing the tango with, you know, those two guys. and any time you start to tango, you got a chance. 40% chance we'll actually get it done before the end of the year. probably a 25% chance we'll get it done right after the end of the year. and then there's that horrible 35% chance that we'll still go over the cliff and have pure chaos. but i think the chances of getting it done now are better. and i think that's what's key. >> have indicated a willingness to compromise. what's interesting there is he did say 40%, that's a little better, that the odds are we get something solved and don't go over the cliff. but he's still looking at a 1 in 3 shot that we end up going off the cliff. so it's that part in the middle that's kind of evened out a little bit. >> let's get to our guest host for more on the fiscal cliff negotiations. joining us now for the rest of the show, senator john thune
of the fiscal cliff negotiations. even though it is a political long shot, he has sort of backing from grover norquist on this who is saying it would be okay to enact carbon tax if we were talking about lowering rates elsewhere. stuart: grover says that? carbon tax okay if you lower tax rates on income? sandra: he's firmly against the carbon tax. he said, however, if they were willing to lower rates across the board in many other ways, he would be willing to discuss it. yes, he did make that point. stuart: okay. sandra: however what i don't like about this is al gore using a tragic situation hurricane sandy as an opportunistic -- stuart: he's not the only one. mayor bloomberg and governor cuomo said the same thing. harry reid said this. i take your point, but go. >> we can sit here and debate this. we don't have conclusive evidence either way. but the bottom line is he wants the government to come in and say we're going to harm small businesses here, we're going to impose the taxes, overregulate, do all the things that hurt these businesses and inhibit their ability to function and grow when
average is up 97 points, 13,256. we follow the tiny makkah nations of the fiscal cliff negotiations. the markets are up. apple has become a day trader's stock. on "varney and company" we never get into stuff like support levels. that is what is happening with apple right now. it is up $13 all over the place. limited brands paid the three dollar, one time dividend. this is the company -- paying a record penalty of $1.9 billion in a money-laundering case, failing to maintain effective anti money-laundering program. watch out, 90 seconds is all you got to wait for the judge back on a ruling on north carolina. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the hearof yr portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes vestment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. look this isn't my firschristmas. thes
"/abc poll of handling of fiscal cliff negotiations, obama, 47% approve, 46% disapprove. boehner, 24% approve. 54% disapprove. i would say, the republican party continues to have a branding problem. >> there is. >> or a disintegrating problem in washington. >> it is a branding problem that was born of chaos in the primary process that continues. there is a great "politico" article that actually talks about the republican problem with branding. and talks about -- >> it's a great piece. >> have you seen this? >> yeah. >> the republican party has a branding problem. these are researchers that say -- we asked 22, 23 different topics, whether americans related more to the democratic party or the republican party. 22 of the 23, they appeal more to democrats. >> yeah. >> it is a generalized, massive branding problem over what's happened nationally over the past year. >> except in the south. >> the piece, in part, points out that unlike people who sit around here, most people, normal people out there in america react emotionally to politics when they hear phrases, they react emotionally. does this re
negotiations? >> well, bernanke is the man credited with coining the term fiscal cliff. he did it back in february as part of testimony before congress. bernanke was speaking at a press conference today and he was asked two things. one, does he see impacts from the fiscal cliff, the lack of a deal, is it already rippling through the economy in? he said, yes. that's why you're seeing a fall in consumer confidence and less business activity and he said that it's impair tea that the congress comes to a deal with the white house and he was asked, do you think that term is correct a. fiscal cliff? is it a slope, maybe? he said, no, it's a fiscal can cliff because the economy will hit a brick wall if there is not a deal in january. he says it is not hype. >> he's basically saying if we go over the fiscal cliff, if these lawmakers and white house doesn't make a deal, it could lead to a recession? >> that >> reporter: that's right. we could hit another recession if we go over the fiscal cliff. >>> shoppers that dive for cover as a gunman opens for cover in an oregon mall. we're going to give y
and president obama speaking on the phone last night about the fiscal cliff. there still seems to be a freeze in the negotiation. >> there's nothing going on privately that's not going on the publicly. >> they've got to come with some specific revenue. they have refused to do that. >> we need that consensual break through. >> although the president seems obsessed on raising taxes for you. >> that is a bad strategy for america, it's a bad strategy for your businesses and it is not a game that i will play. >> is the administration prepared too go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the wealthiest 2%. remember it's only 2%. >> with just 25 days to go, the political satandoff could cost the u.s. millions of jobs. professor, good to have you back, good morning. >> good to be here, thanks. >> good read in the journal yesterday from you and if anybody needed to worry about this more, you invoke carter, you're talking about 1980. kind of scenarios if in fact we go over the cliff? >> yes, i can't stop thinking about
john boehner trying to negotiate a deal to keep the u.s. from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. house republicans meeting right now and we expect to hear from the house speaker at the top of the hour. dana bash, capitol hill, following the negotiations. how many times have i said fiscal cliff over the past couple months, i can't even, if i had a nickel for every time i'd be a wealthy man. >> we'd be able to avert the fiscal cliff. >> exactly, very good, so much more clever and quicker than i am. dana good morning. the president and the house speaker offered new proposals. what do you know about them, if anything? >> reporter: you know, they're being very, very careful, they're holding their cards close to the vest, which i think you know as a reporter is frustrating but as somebody who certainly wants to get, to see this solved, that that is a completely nonpart son thing to say. it maybe is a good sign, because both sides are being very careful not to let the cat out of the bag on some of the specifics because they don't want the process to blow up even before it really starts
's surprise. what role could it play in the fiscal cliff negotiations? >>> major earthquake rattles nerves and shakes buildings in japan in the same area as nearly two years ago. >>> fiscal cliff for air travelers, ground your trip or compromise air safety. >>> be careful what you write on review websites. one woman is being sued for almost $1 million for posting a nasty review online. find out which side the judge is taking. taking. "newsroom" begins right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good morning. thanks for joining us. i'm don lemon in for carol costello this morning. the labor department this morning says 146,000 jobs were added in november and unemployment fell to 7.7%. so, let's put this all in perspective for you just one month earlier. in october, 138,000 jobs were added. so we're going to begin our coverage now with cnn correspondent and first up is christine romans. good morning, christine. >> good morning, don. we give the headline 146,000 jobs created, more than we expected, more than economists had expected, twice what a cnn money survey of economists had exp
. >>> in the latest in the fiscal cliff negotiations treasury secretary tim geithner not mincing words in his interview with steve liesman. there was tough talk that came out of this. i was surprised. >> i was, too. couple different interpretations from tim geithner that the white house would go over the cliff unless there's a tax hike on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000. here's the quote people are talking about. i want to understand the administration's position when it comes to raising taxing on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in. >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest, remember it's only 2%. >> on the one hand senator orin hatch called "one of the most stunning and irresponsible statements" he's heard in some time. he says it will put jobs and people's paychecks and retirement at risk. what geithner was state the administration's existing position but just in harsher and clearer terms.
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